Fire lookout · Idaho County, Idaho
Grouse Point
Clearwater NF 30-foot L-4 tower 3 miles north of Lochsa RS, built 1933 and burned in the August 1934 Pete King Fire; no source describes the site today.
- Gone
- Access unknown
- Verified
Gone: The lookout no longer stands. Only the site is left. Burned in the August 1934 Pete King Fire and not used again; the Forest Service list says gone in 1934
Visit & stay
Gone: site only. The lookout no longer stands, so there is nothing to climb or rent.
Access
Access unknown
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- Road to the top?
- Unknown
- Trail
- Idaho Fire Lookouts labels the site as a hike-in
Facts
- Status
- Type
- Cab on a tower30-foot pole tower with L-4 cab (Hartig 1981 calls the tower a log tower)The design: L-4
- Built of
- Not recorded
- Built
- 1933
- Height
- 30 ft (9.1 m)
- Elevation
- Unknown
- Agency
- Clearwater National Forest
- Land
- Unknown
- Location
- Idaho County, Idaho
- Coordinates
- 46.39179, −115.33464
- Registers
- Not on a lookout register
- This entry
- VerifiedResearched, then checked independently. Updated 10 Oct 2026.
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View from the cab
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History
Then and now
- 1933 Built30-foot tower and L-4 cab; the Forest Lookouts entry and one Idaho Fire Lookouts page give 1934 insteadSources: firelookout.com, idahofirelookouts.com, fs.usda.gov
- 1933 First staffedTent camp set up with Russell Stadtman as lookout man (Hartig 1981, as quoted by Forest Lookouts)Source: idaholookouts.weebly.com
- 1934 BurnedBurned in the Pete King Fire in August 1934; the site was not used againSources: firelookout.com, idahofirelookouts.com, idahofirelookouts.com
- 1934 FirePete King Fire, started by lightning on August 11, 1934, in the Lochsa River CanyonSource: lessons.fs2c.usda.gov
- 1934 Last staffedTower manned for the first and last time in 1934 (Hartig 1981)Source: idaholookouts.weebly.com
- TodayGoneThe lookout no longer stands. Only the site is left.
Old maps of this spot
USGS topographic maps from the years a lookout stood may show it, often as a small symbol labelled “Lookout”. See the old topo maps around it on the Firefinder map, or find every scanned sheet of this spot on USGS TopoView (opens another site) (click the spot there to list them, with dates and downloads).
Story
Researched 10 Oct 2026, fact-checked.
Grouse Point was a lookout in the Clearwater National Forest, in Idaho County, about three miles north of the Lochsa Ranger Station, at 5,000 feet.1,2
According to a 1981 history of the Lochsa Ranger District by Louis Hartig, as quoted on the Forest Lookouts site, a tent camp went up on the point in 1933, with Russell Stadtman as lookout man.3 Hartig says a 30-foot log tower and an L-4 cabin were built that year, and that the tower was manned for the first and last time in 1934.3
The descriptions of the tower do not match. The firelookout.com entry, the St. Joe-Clearwater Idaho Fire Lookouts page and the Forest Service list all describe a 30-foot pole tower with an L-4 cab, while the Forest Lookouts entry calls it round timber.1,4,2,3 Most sources date the tower to 1933, but one Idaho Fire Lookouts page and the Forest Lookouts entry give 1934.1,4,5,2,3
The lookout burned in the Pete King Fire in August 1934.1,4,2,3 Lightning started that fire early on the morning of August 11, 1934, in Idaho's Lochsa River Canyon, and the Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center lists its final area at 60,000 acres, or 250,000 acres combined with the McLendon Butte Fire.6 The Forest Lookouts entry says the site was not used again.3
No source we read describes what remains of the point today, or whether the public may visit it. The Idaho Fire Lookouts page labels the site as a hike-in.4
- Grouse Point Fire Lookout Tower, firelookout.com, https://www.firelookout.com/id/grousepoint269.html (accessed 2026-10-10). ↩
- Clearwater National Forest Lookouts, USDA Forest Service, https://www.fs.usda.gov/media/259185 (accessed 2026-10-10). ↩
- Idaho County (A-L), Forest Lookouts, https://idaholookouts.weebly.com/idaho-county-a-l.html (accessed 2026-10-10). ↩
- Grouse Point Lookout, Idaho Fire Lookouts, https://www.idahofirelookouts.com/st-joe-clearwater-region/grouse-point-lookout/ (accessed 2026-10-10). ↩
- Grouse Point Lookout, Idaho Fire Lookouts, https://www.idahofirelookouts.com/selway-region/grouse-point-lookout-2/ (accessed 2026-10-10). ↩
- Pete King Fire Hit by Tree Fatalities 1934, Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center, https://lessons.fs2c.usda.gov/incident/pete-king-fire-hit-by-tree-fatalities-1934 (accessed 2026-10-10). ↩
Sources
- Forest Fire Lookout Association (FFLA) - US lookout lists (opens another site) Gave us: name, location, county, type, status, links Forest Fire Lookout Association (firelookout.org) · No licence stated; facts extracted only, no prose copied. · retrieved 8 Oct 2026
- firelookout.com -- Rex Kamstra's Forest Fire Lookout Page (opens another site) Gave us: links firelookout.com · No licence stated on the site; facts only (coordinates, elevation, built/destroyed years, design, agency). Photos mirrored with the site's stated credit. · retrieved 4 Oct 2026
- Firefinder research Gave us: summary, design, height, status, agency, visiting details, dates, links, fact-check Firefinder research (sources cited in the story footnotes) · Our own research notes; each fact cites its source in the lookout's story
More about this lookout elsewhere
- Grouse Point Lookout (Idaho Fire Lookouts) (opens another site)
- Grouse Point Lookout (Idaho Fire Lookouts) (opens another site)
- Clearwater National Forest Lookouts (USDA Forest Service, Clearwater National Forest) (opens another site)
- Idaho County (A-L) - Forest Lookouts (opens another site)
- Pete King Fire Hit by Tree Fatalities 1934 (Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center) (opens another site)
- FFLA Idaho lookout list (firelookout.org) (opens another site)
- Grouse Point on firelookout.com (Rex Kamstra) (opens another site)
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