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No Business Lookout

Southern Idaho TPA lookout near McCall: a 1937 two-story log house, replaced by a duplicate in 1963, staffed in fire season and drive-up.

Visit & stay

Not rentable. As far as we know, this lookout cannot be booked for overnight stays.

Access

Open to the public. Drive-up site on Southern Idaho TPA land. NHLR says it welcomes visitors. No source reports a closure.

Can you climb it?
Unknown
Road to the top?
Yes, you can drive up
Staffing
Staffed during fire season

Facts

Status
Standing
Type
Two-story buildingtwo-story D-6 cabin, essentially a small house with two floors; 1963 duplicate of the 1937 buildingThe design: D-6
Built of
Not recorded
Height
Unknown
Elevation
7,334 ft (2,235 m)
Agency
Southern Idaho Timber Protective Association
Land
Unknown
Location
Valley County, Idaho
Coordinates
44.76431, −116.19617
This entry
VerifiedResearched, then checked independently. Updated 8 Oct 2026.
Firefinder id
us-id-no-business

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History

Then and now

  1. 1920 EventFire-detection site since the 1920s, first as a camp, per NHLRSource: nhlr.org
  2. No record between 1920 and 1936
  3. 1936 EventPlanned station announced in the Idaho Statesman, to be installed the next spring about 15 miles southwest of McCallSource: idaholookouts.weebly.com
  4. 1937 BuiltTwo-story 20x20 log structure erected with Civilian Conservation Corps laborSource: idaholookouts.weebly.com
  5. No record between 1937 and 1963
  6. 1963 Built'Built' field on NHLR detail pageSource: NHLR register entry
  7. 1963 Replaced by a new structureDuplicate-design replacement for the 1937 buildingSources: nhlr.org, firelookout.com, idahofirelookouts.com
  8. 1966 FireFire under a quarter acre southeast of the lookout, controlled by four smokejumpers; cause not statedSource: idaholookouts.weebly.com
  9. No record between 1966 and 2020
  10. 2020 Added to the National Historic Lookout RegisterRegistered on the National Historic Lookout Register, October 3, 2020Sources: nhlr.org, idahofirelookouts.com
  11. TodayStandingIt still stands, as far as our sources know.

Old maps of this spot

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Story

Researched 8 Oct 2026, fact-checked.

No Business Lookout stands on Southern Idaho Timber Protective Association land about eleven miles from McCall, Idaho, and the association administers it.1,2 The mountain has been a fire-detection site since the 1920s, when it was first a camp.2 A November 1936 report in the Idaho Statesman announced a new station there, modeled on Packer John lookout near Smith's Ferry, and it placed the site about 15 miles southwest of McCall.3 The same report quotes the association's secretary as fed up with Bald Mountains, and it calls the new name a departure.3

The two-story log house, roughly 20 feet square, went up in 1937 with Civilian Conservation Corps labor.3 Accounts differ on its materials. The NHLR describes a log structure, while firelookout.com describes a log and frame house.2,4 Its 1963 replacement was built to the same plan.2,4 Keeping Watch describes the building as a D-6 cabin, essentially a small house with two floors, and calls it one of the only remaining D-6 lookouts in the Northwest.1

The NHLR says the lookout is staffed during fire season and welcomes visitors, and firelookout.com ties its staffing to the summer.2,4 In September 1966 four smokejumpers controlled a fire of less than a quarter acre southeast of the lookout. Officials were not sure what had started it.3

Idaho Fire Lookouts lists the site as a drive-up, staffed lookout.5 The National Historic Lookout Register added it to its listings on October 3, 2020.2,5

  1. No Business Lookout, Keeping Watch, Center for Digital Inquiry and Learning, https://cdil.lib.uidaho.edu/keeping-watch/items/no-business-lookout.html (accessed 2026-10-08). ↩
  2. No Business Lookout, National Historic Lookout Register, http://nhlr.org/lookouts/us/id/no-business-lookout/ (accessed 2026-10-08). ↩
  3. No Business - Forest Lookouts, Forest Lookouts (idaholookouts.weebly.com), https://idaholookouts.weebly.com/no-business.html (accessed 2026-10-08). ↩
  4. No Business Fire Lookout Tower, firelookout.com, https://www.firelookout.com/id/nobusiness.html (accessed 2026-10-08). ↩
  5. No Business Lookout, Idaho Fire Lookouts, https://www.idahofirelookouts.com/west-central/no-business-lookout/ (accessed 2026-10-08). ↩

Photos

No Business Lookout - 2014
No Business Lookout - 2014 (2014)Photo: Brad Eells, via National Historic Lookout Register (nhlr.org) · All rights reserved · source
Photo of No Business Lookout
Photo: Andrew G., via National Historic Lookout Register (nhlr.org) · All rights reserved · source
No Business 1937-1963
No Business 1937-1963 (1937)Photo: the Dave Bula collection and Dennis Conley, via firelookout.com · source
No Business in 1989
No Business in 1989 (1989)Photo: the Dave Bula collection and Dennis Conley, via firelookout.com · source
No Business in 2000
No Business in 2000 (2000)Photo: the Dave Bula collection and Dennis Conley, via firelookout.com · source
No Business Lookout
No Business LookoutPhoto: idahofirelookouts.com · source

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Where sources disagree

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  • Sources disagree on the year it was built.

    • NHLR: 1963
    • firelookout.com -- Rex Kamstra's Forest Fire Lookout Page: 1937

    Sources give different build years. Often one counts the first lookout on the site and another the structure there now.

Sources

  1. National Historic Lookout Register (NHLR) Gave us: name, location, county, elevation, register numbers, agency, dates, photos, links National Historic Lookout Register (nhlr.org) · All rights reserved (American Resources, Inc.); facts extracted only, no prose copied. · retrieved 4 Oct 2026
  2. Forest Fire Lookout Association (FFLA) - US lookout lists Gave us: type, status, register numbers, links Forest Fire Lookout Association (firelookout.org) · No licence stated; facts extracted only, no prose copied. · retrieved 8 Oct 2026
  3. firelookout.com -- Rex Kamstra's Forest Fire Lookout Page Gave us: photos, links firelookout.com · No licence stated on the site; facts only (coordinates, elevation, built/destroyed years, design, agency). Photos mirrored with the site's stated credit. · retrieved 4 Oct 2026
  4. Idaho Fire Lookouts (idahofirelookouts.com) Gave us: staffing, photos, links idahofirelookouts.com · No licence stated; facts only (coordinates, status/built/destroyed year parsed from each entry's short excerpt). Thumbnail photos mirrored with credit per the project's photo policy. · retrieved 4 Oct 2026
  5. FOREST LOOKOUTS -- western US (Ron Kemnow's weebly sites) Ron Kemnow's Forest Lookouts sites (westlookouts, californialookouts, idaholookouts, montanalookouts, oregonlookouts and washingtonlookouts .weebly.com) · No licence stated; facts only (county, land manager, status word, coordinates where the page's own map widget gives them, township-range-section, height and design hints, links). The site's own newspaper quotes, citations and narrative are not reproduced. · retrieved 8 Oct 2026
  6. Firefinder research Gave us: summary, design, status, agency, access, visiting details, dates, links, fact-check Firefinder research (sources cited in the story footnotes) · Our own research notes; each fact cites its source in the lookout's story

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